Monday, September 12, 2005

Writing and Cooking (And How to Give Feedback)

Ahh...plagiarism. Apologies in advance to melly over at All Kinds of Writing, who recently wrote a very interesting post about the feedback we love getting as writers and the stuff that's, well, not so great (be sure to read it - I feel it my duty to at least send her a few visitors so long as I'm stealing from her). Due to the fact that I was at school from 11 AM to 7 PM today (my first day back) - and that, as a result, my brain cells are all screaming bloody murder with their last breaths before dying pitiful deaths (really, they're just slumping over, it's pathetic) - I can't come up with my own original blog post, so I'm just going to riff on hers.

I hate cooking. Always did.

I have been, instead, blessed by three amazing things:
  • The Microwave (O Wondrous Invention of Inventions!)
  • The fact that I live in a major urban center with a wide selection of restaurants.
  • The fact that my girlfriend and her mother feel sorry for me and my woefully inadequate diet and, as a result, attempt to funnel impossibly large amounts of food into my mouth at all times. (As you can imagine, I go over there a lot.)

Of course, over the course of time, you're bound to have meals that just don't agree with you. From the microwave, more often than not, it's expected. So, when it spits out a slimy, frozen-in-the-middle but burnt-on-the-outsides dinner for me, I gulp it down with a smile on my face, knowing it at least passes the hunger test. I'll criticize it, of course, but I don't expect a gourmet feast, so I'm never too hard on it. Getting a meal I don't really like from my girlfriend or her mother, though, is a bit more of a delicate matter. I'd never dream of being critical because I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. If a restaurant meal doesn't succeed, though, I'm all righteous outrage and critical to the last.

So, what does this have to do with writing? Well, I've always been of the opinion that writers, when giving feedback, do it in a manner according to whose work it is they're critiquing. For example, the teenager who has just written his first short story and is entirely enthusiastic about it - they're a microwave. Whenever I critique a story over at Fictionpress, largely a site for teen writers, I'm relatively gentle, pointing out one or two of the more glaring errors while highlighting positive aspects. After all, no one wants to scare off a potential writer (though maybe we should - there's enough competition out there already).

The generous girlfriend and her mother - those are friends or acquaintances who are just starting out. After I mentioned (as casually as possible) that I'd published a novel to friends and acquaintances, both those I know in day-to-day life and those I know through the internet, a few who had dabbled in writing started to write in earnest. Of course, they wanted my opinion. And, while some of the stuff they came out with wasn't bad at all, I found it nearly impossible to give any negative feedback.

"Serious" writers (ie. those who have been at it for a while) are restaurants. I give these people full-on critiques. After all, if you're going to make it as a writer, you definitely need to know how to deal with criticism. For the most part, they're pretty good sports about it.

I'm curious, how do you dole out criticism to those of different skill levels?

8 Comments:

prying1 said...

re: How do you dole out criticism to those of different skill levels?
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Pretty much the same as you do. Too much heart at times. Although I will say thet I'm not skilled enough to really critique a piece. Even my own. I do know what I like and in a self centered way that is what counts.

I am however a pretty mean proof reader as far as spelling goes. People should re-read their posts and comments prior to hitting send. Spell check the words they are not sure of. Like I did now and should have done to an earlier comment with a misspelled word at AubreyJ's.

Good post - Even if it is 'borrowed'

2:19 AM  
prying1 said...

Arrrghhh! - A misspelled word - And I proofed it twice! Where is that little smiley with the guy hitting himself on the head with a hammer?

2:22 AM  
Callen Damornen said...

Just keep up with the good work. All writers have to start somewhere.

BTW, cooking really is not all that hard once you learn the basics. Sometimes it can be downright therapeutic.

Cooking for yourself, when you know what you are doing, sure beats microwave cooking and most restaurants.

The Right Left

8:55 AM  
melly said...

Goodness, Cavan. I just saw this and rolled out laughing.
You have a tendency to do this to me whenever I come here :)

(I couldn't really understand what was going on because I first saw this on a search and kept telling to myself, 'but it's my title, how'd they mix up the URLs?')

Me? I think I'm a fu**ing b**ch when I critique, but it might just be my impression.
I loved how you categorized the writers. I think we all think that way it in one way or another.

And Callen's right, cooking ain't all that hard. If you can drive, you can cook!

5:16 PM  
Eric Mutta said...

How do you dole out criticism to those of different skill levels?

I have always been one to remain sensitive to people's feelings so I never criticise a piece unless I have atleast one good thing to say about it. The approach is the same for all skill levels:

*Be respectful (if they are mature), non-patronising (if they are young).

*Always give examples of what constitutes "an improvement" when you point out the negatives.

*Do not nitpick.

*Review the review and remove the ad-hominem attacks that almost always find their way into it.

I believe a good reviewer is one who makes me want to go back and try again, instead of making me take out a triple-barrel canon and relocating their head :-)

9:10 PM  
Cavan said...

Eric says: "I never criticise a piece unless I have at least one good thing to say about it"

As a reviewer, that's something to live by, in my opinion. Actually, most of your comment, I think, is spot on and something all reviewers should keep in mind. On the other hand, I have to disagree with nitpicking. Having small details picked apart is something that holds interest for me, as it forces me to constantly improve my diction. That said, nitpicking should be reserved only for those who want to be nitpicked.

prying says: "I will say that I'm not skilled enough to really critique a piece."

Don't sell yourself short. Every reader has an opinion, and all opinions have some level of value to the writer trying to improve their work. It doesn't matter if your critiques are heavily detailed and delve into all the nooks and crannies of the piece or not - as long as you're open and honest about what you liked and didn't like, the writer will appreciate your effort.

11:11 PM  
Eric Mutta said...

Cavan:>On the other hand, I have to disagree with nitpicking...

Allow me clarify, please. Having someone analyse and comment on all the parts that are pertinent to the story is considered a detailed review, whereas picking apart things that are only peripheral to the story is considered nitpicking.

As an example, I once saw a video tour of Pixar studios, the guys who brought us Finding Nemo. In that tour they showed how some of the animation was done, and apparently they had a fish specialist of some sort come in and give advice on the realism of the artwork and animation. He gave the useful info about which fin goes where and how the fins cooperate to create movement, but then at some point said Nemo's movements weren't realistic enough (for reasons only apparent to a fish specialist). In response, one of the Pixar guys said, "hey, fish don't talk either", letting the specialist know he had crossed the thin line between detailed review and nitpicking.

8:55 AM  
Cavan said...

Point taken, Eric. And yes, I agree with you there.

4:22 PM  

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